The one comment I would make is that Interact Commerce was doing about 50% of their sales via a direct salesforce. So the revenue numbers (and the direct selling expenses ) would be substantially higher on the same number of units as when Sage moved it to a 100% direct model fairly soon after acquisition. It still doesn't disprove what looks to be the truth by just looking on how long it has taken the product to move to a web environment. It was once the 'gold standard' in mid-market CRM and is definitely not there anymore in terms of perception.